with thanks : Hindustan times : link above
East Delhi RWAs Joint Front
www.RWABhagidari.blogspot.com
www.RWABhagidari.com
Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Hindustan Times : One bill, three ways to look at it : must view
with thanks : Hindustan times : link above
East Delhi RWAs Joint Front
www.RWABhagidari.blogspot.com
www.RWABhagidari.com
Bhagat Singh’s kin, 300 others join in
Had Bhagat Singh been alive, he’d have been proud of the mass upsurge against tyranny of a different kind — of the system and by the system — faced by the citizens of India. As if on cue, the latest to join Anna Hazare's anti-corruption crusade is a team of 300 Sikhs from Punjab, led by freedom fighter Bhagat Singh’s nephew, Abhay Singh Sandhu.
On Tuesday afternoon, a rally was held from India Gate to Ramlila Ground in support of the Jan Lokpal Bill by members of the Sikh squad donning yellow turbans.
“We have come here from Chandigarh to support Anna’s fight for a strong Jan Lokpal Bill. My uncle laid down his life for the nation and if need be, we will also do the same,” said Sandhu, son of Bhagat Singh’s youngest brother Sardar Kulbir Singh, who landed in the Capital on Tuesday morning, along with 300 supporters.
Carrying portraits of Bhagat Singh, Anna supporters from Punjab joined the crowd at Ramlila Ground and shouted slogans in favour of an effective Jan Lokpal Bill.
“People are out on the streets across the nation and the message is clear. The government should bring in the Jan Lokpal bill to curb corruption or it should go to the people and seek a fresh mandate,” said stand-up comedian Bhagwant Mann (of Laughter Challenge fame), who also arrived in Delhi from Chandigarh to support Anna Hazare’s movement.
“Lakhs of people have come out to support Hazare. It certainly shows they have unflinching faith in the activist,” Mann added.
with thanks : Hindustan times : link above for detailed news
Tuesday, August 23, 2011
Many objectives behind Anna’s agitation ?
Anna Hazare’s fast at the Ramlila ground has attracted unprecedented crowds. For someone who was born and grew up in Delhi, I have not seen anyone getting this kind of support even if it is from a certain section of our people. Yes three political rallies in this city have been really mammoth. The first one I remember very clearly was when Babu Jagjiwan Ram broke away from the Congress to form the Congress for Democracy in February, 1977 to back the JP movement. His rally in the first week of February took the fear out of the people after the Emergency was lifted and it drew a huge crowd. Every lane and road next to Ramlila Ground was jam-packed. The other two mammoth rallies were the Farmers rallies of Chaudhury Charan Singh and Indira Gandhi. Both were held at the Boat Club lawns and no one had seen anything like that for a very long time. Now it is Anna’s agitation, which is drawing big crowds from all over the city. I sometimes wonder as to what happened to Shiela Dikshit’s Bhagidari with the Resident Welfare Associations, which were all there doing Bhagidari with Anna at the Ramlila grounds. It goes on to show that the issue of corruption touches a chord everywhere. The inability of the government to defuse the situation also demonstrates that those who are ruling us today are not capable of good governance and seem totally unprepared to meet the challenge head on. There is no management of any kind and there is no strategy. The end result is that the stock of the UPA government is perhaps at its lowest and unless something is done, things are not going to change.
My reading of the situation is that we are headed for a period of instability and this could even necessitate an early poll. Most in the political class may not agree to this hypothesis on the plea that no one wants elections but sometimes circumstances determine the course of history.
While Anna has acquired a hugely enhanced status, there are various forces that are trying to make the best of the situation. All these forces have different objectives. The RSS and a section of the BJP want to use the agitation to navigate the middle classes to return to the Saffron fold. A section within the Congress wants to use this agitation to get rid of Manmohan Singh and replace him with someone else. Another section wants to point out at the youth and student support, which Anna is getting to dump Rahul Gandhi who was seen as a future icon for the younger generation. Many non-Congress and BJP parties see for themselves an opportunity to once again rule this country, something what happened during Deva Gowda and Gujral’s time. There are a few in Team Anna who could also have their objectives. What they are only time will tell.
Meanwhile, the Congress cadres are demoralized and some of them also want the government to collapse. They have been sidelined since many others who came from other parties have become more important. The party on its part continues to field many of these entrants as its spokespersons on the TV every night therefore rubbing the cadres the wrong way.
In the end, Anna’s agitation has a lesson for the entire political class. He has galvanized forces, which will not be satisfied with status quo.
Hindustan Times Blog : link above
प्रधानमंत्री मनमोहन सिंह ने चिट्ठी में अन्ना को क्या लिखा ?
पिछले कुछ दिनों से मुझे आपके स्वास्थ्य की चिंता होने लगी है. सरकार और आपकी टीम के बीच चल रहे गतिरोध के बावजूद हमारी ओर से आपके स्वास्थ्य की चिंता की बेहद फिक्र है और लंबे अनशन की वजह से इसपर कोई मतभेद नहीं है.
मुझे यह कहते हुए कोई संकोच नहीं हो रहा कि हमें देश की सेवा में आपके विचार और कर्म की जरूरत है. इसके लिए आप स्वस्थ शारीरिक हालात में रहें न कि आपके स्वास्थ्य में लगातार गिरावट हो.
मैंने हमेशा ही कहा है कि हमारा और आपका उद्येश्य एक ही है. अगर हम भ्रष्टाचार को पूरी तरह जड़ से नहीं भी उखाड़ सके तो इसको एक हद तक समाप्त करना चाहते हैं.
हम दोनों एक ही राह पर हैं बस तरीका अलग है. मैं समझता हूं कि हमारे बीच जो मतभेद है उसे बढ़ाचढा कर पेश किया गया है. सरकार एक संवैधानिक लोकपाल बिल लाना चाहती है. इस पर वो सिविल सोसाइटी के सदस्यों से भी सहयोग चाहती है और एकमत बनाने पर जोर देती है.
हम किसी से भी बात करने को तैयार हैं. हालांकि कानून बनाने के दौरान हम संसद की गरिमा और संवैधानिक कर्तव्यों को बनाये रखने को कृतसंकल्प हैं.
एक जिम्मेदार सरकार के रूप में हम देश की संसद व देश की जनता के मत का सम्मान करते हैं.
जैसा कि आप जानते हैं कि लोकपाल बिल संसद की स्टैंडिंग कमेटी के पास जा चुकी है. हम पहले भी कह चुके हैं कि स्टैंडिंग कमेटी के पास सारे विकल्प मौजूद है. इसमें कोई शक नहीं है कि वो इसके सभी परिच्छेद (क्लॉज) पर पूरी तरह विचार करेगी. इतना ही नहीं स्टैंडिंग कमेटी अपने विवेक से हमारे द्वारा भेजे गए बिल के साथ आपके और अरूणा रॉय जैसे भेजी गई बिलों पर भी विचार करेगी. स्टैंडिंग कमेटी सरकार द्वारा भेजे गए लोकपाल बिल में कोई भी परिवर्तन करने के लिए पूरी तरह से अधिकार प्राप्त है. इसके साथ ही सरकार द्वारा जनलोकपाल बिल को स्टैंडिंग कमेटी के पास नहीं भेजे जाने पर उपजे विवाद का भी कोई मतलब नहीं रह जाएगा.
फिर भी आपकी टीम के द्वारा लगातार कहे जाने और आपके गिरते स्वास्थ्य के आलोक में हम स्टैंडिंग कमेटी के पास जनलोकपाल बिल को रखने के लिए लोकसभा के अध्यक्ष से आग्रह करेंगे. इतना ही नहीं, अगर आप समयसीमा और इसकी रफ्तार की बात करेंगे तो हम स्टैंडिंग कमेटी से इस पर तेजी से कार्रवाई करने का आग्रह भी करेंगे.
मैं आपसे कहना चाहता हूं कि इस पत्र में लिखीं सभी बातें आपके स्वास्थ्य और एक मजबूत लोकपाल बिल को लेकर है.
मैं उम्मीद करता हूं कि आप मेरे द्वारा दिए गये सुझावों पर ध्यान देंगे और अपने अनशन को समाप्त करेंगे जिससे आपका स्वास्थ्य में सुधार हो और नई प्राणशक्ति मिले.
Jan Lok Pal Bill
ओउम, कहने को हमारा देश लोकतंत्र राष्ट्र है लेकिन वास्ता में राजतन्त्र पूंजीवाद तंत्र है , और उसका प्रमाण राजसभा है , जो की एक लोकतान्त्रिक देश में नहीं होना चाहिए, कियोकी राजसभा के सदस्य राष्ट्र की जनता द्वारा नहीं चुने जाते वे अपनी पूंजी के प्रभाव से राजनेतिक पार्टियों द्वारा सीधे सता में राज करने का अवसर प्राप्त करते है , और सता में आने पर लोक सभा को भी अपनी शक्ति से प्रभावित हावी हो जाने का प्रयतन करते है , और केवल अपने विय्क्तिगत व अपने उद्योग जगत के गुट व शाथियो के ही स्वार्थ सिद्ध करते है और मन मानी करते है यही से सर्व प्रथम भ्रष्टाचार आरंभ होता है! मेरा मानना है की किसीभी राष्ट्र में जहा लोकतंत्र हो राजसभा नहीं होनी चाहिए , हमारे देश में भी राजसभा समाप्त कर, केवल देश के लोगो द्वारा चुनी गई लोकशाही संसद में लोकसभा होनी चाहिए , लोकसभा की ५५२ सदस्य से बड़ा कर ७९५ कर दी जानी चाहिए !
वन्दे मातरम
"जगदीप यज्ञेरूप"
General secretory
Adarsh Residence welfare Association
Raj Nager Palam
Jan Lok Pal Bill Vs. Govt.s Lok pal Bill
A wellwritten email for all of us to emulate Prof. S. Sitaraman Senior Vice President, Ritnand Balved Education Foundation (RBEF) (An Umbrella Organisation of Amity Educational Institutions) Director, Amity Centre for Yoga and Meditation Advisor, Amity Centre for Guidance & Counselling (ACGC) Director, Amity Foundation for Ayurvedic sciences |
Jan Lok Pal Bill
We are impressed by ANNA,S DEDICATION . But what is our dedication to ensure that whatever we feel strongly, we are not able to implement it. We raised issue of provision of CCTV CAMERAS ON atleast main road signal points, realisation of duty from illegal mobile towers and from realisation of taxes from properties not brought under tax net. Even in markets like Preet vihar the shops have been subdivided without any permission. THE LIST IS LONG.....BUT our efforts are inadequate. What we should do even to get small small things done.
kk ghei
Jan Lok pal Bill
Janlokpal – lost in translation?
Govt. has presented its version of the lokpal bill in parliament, which has since been referred to the standing committee for deliberations. Standing committee in its first meeting had invited Anna and his team for their views and discussed their draft bill also. Many have raised questions on Anna’s draft and none of the political parties are in agreement to adopt his bill in totality. There are divergent views all around though everybody wants that a strong lokpal bill should come into force to check all pervasive corruption in the society.
Annaji has started its fast on 16th of Aug., amidst high drama of his arrest and release and parliament been paralyzed on govt.’s highhanded and clumsy handling of the situation. Anna’s arrest has brought out lakhs of people on streets in his support and decried govt.’s action in disallowing fundamental right of protest in a peaceful manner. Govt. has been badly humiliated inside and outside parliament and has finally backtracked by permitting Anna and his team to hold fast for 15days at Ramlila ground. Govt. had underestimated the public support Anna will be able to garner, and is confused on how to tackle the situation. It only hopes that crowd supporting Anna fizzles out due to fatigue or Anna is hospitalized to recover from prolonged fasting or similar such situation develops. Though Anna’s team is firm on its demand for strong lokpal as per its draft, yet there are voices within its team who want some give and take to settle the issue. Govt. too is probably willing to negotiate on some face saving terms of its own.
The first four days of his fast has been a distraction of the main issue of acceptance of the terms of janlokpal as attention was diverted to allowing Anna a suitable place to fast and the needed infrastructure like security, sanitation, drinking water, loudspeakers etc. The mass support is more emotional than rational as most in the crowd hardly understand what the main issues of Janlokpal and govt.’s version of the bill are, and what implications on short or long terms are involved in either of them. The masses supporting Anna have lost faith in the creditability of the system and political class as a whole. All politicians are by and large considered corrupt hence the anger on the streets is manifestation of pent up emotions which has got an opportunity of expression provided by the agitation led by Anna and his team. Young middle class people in urban areas as well as others all over the country have been able to connect themselves with Anna, a
selfless social activist in whom they see a ray of hope in his version of the bill, in cleaning the system of day to day corruption and punishing those indulging in looting the nation of its resources.
Anna’s team has set the deadline as 30th of Aug. but Govt. is no hurry to expedite the process instead is adopting the usual bureaucratic line of inviting public suggestions, personal interactions, public debate, all party consensus etc. that may take months to arrive at some conclusion before presenting the final bill in the parliament for approval. If the govt. sticks on its course of action then what happens to Anna’s life who continues with his fast? It is high time that govt. wakes up and listens to the aspirations of masses, which are on streets with peaceful protests in support of janlokpal. If public patience is tested too far, it will not take much time to get violent and be out of govt.’s control. Any attempt on negotiated settlement on the principle of give and take, as is being advocated will make janlokpal loose its sting in translation.
Prime minister has stressed on passing a strong lokpal bill. He has not spelled out what type of strong lokpal bill he is talking about? The bill finalized by his govt. and presented in the parliament is an apology to a strong lokpal. Everyone wants strong, effective and enforceable bill for which Anna is ready to lay down his life, but in this process they are missing the woods for the trees. The objectives is, not the bill but the need to check, control and erase corruption from the system. The bill is only a means but not the objective. Hence any bill which can uproot corruption and catch and punish those perpetrating this evil in shortest possible time should be acceptable. The janlokpal presented by the team Anna does show the promise of achieving the objective. It can be fine tuned to remove irritants by mutual discussions to arrive at a consensus.
Time is running out. Let us not permit team Anna’S efforts to go down the drain. If we loose the opportunity now to bring out a strong lokpal biil capable of achieving the objective we will never get it again. Govt. should come out with an effective solution to the problem acceptable to Anna and his team in particular and public in general. Govt. should realize the urgency of the suggestion to cool down tempers and bring normalcy on the streets.
May God give better sense to the govt. and strength to team Anna on logical conclusion of their efforts?
Govt. has presented its version of the lokpal bill in parliament, which has since been referred to the standing committee for deliberations. Standing committee in its first meeting had invited Anna and his team for their views and discussed their draft bill also. Many have raised questions on Anna’s draft and none of the political parties are in agreement to adopt his bill in totality. There are divergent views all around though everybody wants that a strong lokpal bill should come into force to check all pervasive corruption in the society.
Annaji has started its fast on 16th of Aug., amidst high drama of his arrest and release and parliament been paralyzed on govt.’s highhanded and clumsy handling of the situation. Anna’s arrest has brought out lakhs of people on streets in his support and decried govt.’s action in disallowing fundamental right of protest in a peaceful manner. Govt. has been badly humiliated inside and outside parliament and has finally backtracked by permitting Anna and his team to hold fast for 15days at Ramlila ground. Govt. had underestimated the public support Anna will be able to garner, and is confused on how to tackle the situation. It only hopes that crowd supporting Anna fizzles out due to fatigue or Anna is hospitalized to recover from prolonged fasting or similar such situation develops. Though Anna’s team is firm on its demand for strong lokpal as per its draft, yet there are voices within its team who want some give and take to settle the issue. Govt. too is probably willing to negotiate on some face saving terms of its own.
The first four days of his fast has been a distraction of the main issue of acceptance of the terms of janlokpal as attention was diverted to allowing Anna a suitable place to fast and the needed infrastructure like security, sanitation, drinking water, loudspeakers etc. The mass support is more emotional than rational as most in the crowd hardly understand what the main issues of Janlokpal and govt.’s version of the bill are, and what implications on short or long terms are involved in either of them. The masses supporting Anna have lost faith in the creditability of the system and political class as a whole. All politicians are by and large considered corrupt hence the anger on the streets is manifestation of pent up emotions which has got an opportunity of expression provided by the agitation led by Anna and his team. Young middle class people in urban areas as well as others all over the country have been able to connect themselves with Anna, a
selfless social activist in whom they see a ray of hope in his version of the bill, in cleaning the system of day to day corruption and punishing those indulging in looting the nation of its resources.
Anna’s team has set the deadline as 30th of Aug. but Govt. is no hurry to expedite the process instead is adopting the usual bureaucratic line of inviting public suggestions, personal interactions, public debate, all party consensus etc. that may take months to arrive at some conclusion before presenting the final bill in the parliament for approval. If the govt. sticks on its course of action then what happens to Anna’s life who continues with his fast? It is high time that govt. wakes up and listens to the aspirations of masses, which are on streets with peaceful protests in support of janlokpal. If public patience is tested too far, it will not take much time to get violent and be out of govt.’s control. Any attempt on negotiated settlement on the principle of give and take, as is being advocated will make janlokpal loose its sting in translation.
Prime minister has stressed on passing a strong lokpal bill. He has not spelled out what type of strong lokpal bill he is talking about? The bill finalized by his govt. and presented in the parliament is an apology to a strong lokpal. Everyone wants strong, effective and enforceable bill for which Anna is ready to lay down his life, but in this process they are missing the woods for the trees. The objectives is, not the bill but the need to check, control and erase corruption from the system. The bill is only a means but not the objective. Hence any bill which can uproot corruption and catch and punish those perpetrating this evil in shortest possible time should be acceptable. The janlokpal presented by the team Anna does show the promise of achieving the objective. It can be fine tuned to remove irritants by mutual discussions to arrive at a consensus.
Time is running out. Let us not permit team Anna’S efforts to go down the drain. If we loose the opportunity now to bring out a strong lokpal biil capable of achieving the objective we will never get it again. Govt. should come out with an effective solution to the problem acceptable to Anna and his team in particular and public in general. Govt. should realize the urgency of the suggestion to cool down tempers and bring normalcy on the streets.
May God give better sense to the govt. and strength to team Anna on logical conclusion of their efforts?
Satyendra Malik
Jan lok pal bill
DEAR SIR,
WHY GOVT IS SCARY FOR ACCEPTING THE JLP BILL. IS IT IS FIRST AND LAST EFFORTS BY THE CIVIL SOCIETY TO CURB THE CORRUPTION?. LET BEGIAN SOME THINGS TO REMOVE THE CORRUPTION FROM THE GRASS ROUTE LEVEL. MPS AND MINISTERS ARE ALSO PUBLIC SERVENTS AND GETTING SALARY AND PENSION FROM THE GOVT. THIS IS THE PUBLIC MONEY AND ON ONE CAN ALLOW THEM TO DO THIER MONOPLOY.
R U AGREE WITH TO REMIAN WITH GOVT CREATED PRIZE HIKE. IN THIS EPISODE WHO IS BENEFITED! SURLY U R NOT.
I AM QOTING A EXAMPLE OF SIX PAY COMMISSION. THE SALRY OF CLASS I AND ABOVE HAS BEEN RAISED BY 3 TIME WHERE AS THE SALRY OF REST OF THE GOVT SERVENT WHO IS MORE THAN 95% , HAS BEEN RISED ONLY BY 1.8 TIME.
PRIZE OF ESSENTIAL COMMODITY IS RAISING DAY BY DAY AND IS CONTINUE TO RAISE AS AND WHEN GOVT WANTS. SERVICE TAX HAS BEEN INCREASED BY MANY FOLD AND SO MANY ITMES HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THIS NET. NO REBEAT IS BEING GIVING ON INCOME TAX ON THIS ACCOUNT.
FOR FLATED DDA HOUSES THE WATER SERVICE CHARGE IS MORE THAN 200% OF ACTUAL BILL OF WATER CHARGES. THE FIXED CONSUMPTON HAS ALSO BEEN INCLREASED WITHOUT ANY NOTICES. ( 20 KL TO 22 KL)
AAM ADMI IS FACING GREAT DIFFICULTY TO GET THIER DAILY NECESSITY.
Honsety is the best policy and do the things either for your self and for soceity with the same sprit.
R.K.SHARMA
Jan Lok Pal Bill
Hi All
Please read the forwarded comments from Mr Rajiv Kakaria, which depicts the hard facts of the Lok Pal Bill.His comments about Jan Lok Pal Bill are also valid and important. Churn your minds and give your comments in response to the Parliamentary Standing Committee's ad seeking comments/suggestions from the public on the Lok Pal Bill.
Ram Gupta
General Secretary
Priyadarshini Vihar RWA
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