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Tuesday, October 23, 2018

Have you gone through this notice? Comments awaited.

It's strange. They want us to join hands with them without any empowerment and willing to levy huge penalties on us. Do they pay any penalty when they fail to do everything - potholes, waterlogging, sanitation, dengue, traffic jam, pollution, and a lot more, while they have all the powers. They are just fooling the masses. 


RWAs are just doing the selfless service to the society. We spend our own time, by spending from our own pockets, without any empowerment, and they want to levy penalties on us for no fault of us under the garb of joining hands with them.

Please raise the issue, else soon all of the RWAs will shut their doors as that will be the better option for them, instead of paying the huge penalties out of nothing.

Chat:


Ashutosh Dikshit  This is as per the rules and laws notified by gazette notification of 2016 and bye-laws for Delhi notified in 2018. Of course following the law is not really a well-known practice in the country.

Sanjay Gupta  This is going to be another big blow to RWA. The way rules are drafted, the whole onus will shift to RWA. Strange



Ashutosh Dikshit Not really Sanjay ji. The rules leave the responsibility on municipalities but ask for RWA partnership. In Delhi RWA and CGHS are legally positioned differently so their onus is also different. This responsibility could also be an opportunity for RWA to help in dealing with a citywide crisis.

Sanjay Gupta Ashutosh Dikshit ji however the rules says differently when interpreted. The biggest issue will be with colonies where RWA formation is not mandatory. Law is not making any apparent division leaving scope for interpretation.


Ashutosh Dikshit Sanjay Gupta Ji. We have discussed this with officers as well as studied the bye-laws notified. Will discuss with you to clear apprehensions


Rwa Bhagidari It's strange. They want us to join hands with them without any empowerment and willing to levy huge penalties on us. Do they pay any penalty when they fail to do everything - potholes, waterlogging, sanitation, dengue, and a lot more while they have all the powers. They are just fooling the masses.RWAs are just doing the selfless service to the society. We spend our own time, by spending from our own pockets, without any empowerment, and they want to levy penalties on us for no fault of us.


Ashutosh Dikshit Of course. Any RWA registered as a society under SRA of 1860 is in reality an NGO and the current laws cannot levy penalties on it. The MCD can levy penalty on the individual as prescribed in these by laws. So any RWA that does not want to participate in waste management can refuse but an individual citizen cannot. The citizen is duty and legally bound but the RWA is not. It will help of course if it becomes clear as to what power an RWA wants. All powers will carry corresponding liability as well.

Ashutosh Dikshit But I agree that the Municipal intent on waste and in being a responsible body is missing

Rwa Bhagidari Do they pay any penalty when they fail to do everything - potholes, waterlogging, sanitation, dengue, and a lot more while they have all the powers.


Rwa Bhagidari RWAs are willing to participate but no penalties as we don't have any empowerment


Ashutosh Dikshit By being made responsible, as well as liable RWA, are automatically empowered. It gives them a right to demand residents fall in line. Unfortunately, RWA is not seeing that.


Rwa Bhagidari HaHaHa. Where is the Empowerment? Is it written anywhere in the rules and laws notified by gazette notification of 2016 and bye-laws for Delhi notified in 2018?


Ashutosh Dikshit Yes empowerment is important. But so far very few RWA are able to clarify the exact power they want. What power should be given that would be satisfactory


Rwa Bhagidari RWAs are just doing the selfless service to the society. We spend our own time, by spending from our own pockets, without any empowerment, and they want to levy penalties on us for no fault of us under the garb of joining hands with them.

Rwa Bhagidari Please raise the issue, else soon all of the RWAs will shut their doors as that will be the better option for them, instead of paying the huge penalties out of nothing.